big fish on small flies | Fishmadman.com http://www.fishmadman.com Dry fly fishing for salmon and steelhead with Bomber dry flies - Riffling Hitch and wake fly techniques Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:14:35 +0000 en-US hourly 1 34674374 You have to lose salmon and steelhead on small flies http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/22297 http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/22297#_comments Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:28:00 +0000 http://www.fishmadman.com/?p=22297 The tiny stuff Why use such a small tube fly? Small flies are essential to the salmon and trout fly box. We tend to forget that salmon and trout are more than ferocious predators – they are also highly adaptable critters that could blend into an environment and take advantage of the available food source.…

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The tiny stuff

Why use such a small tube fly?

Small flies are essential to the salmon and trout fly box. We tend to forget that salmon and trout are more than ferocious predators – they are also highly adaptable critters that could blend into an environment and take advantage of the available food source. We tap into these skills when we reach for the small flies in our fly-box.
It could be in that slow pool where salmon and steelhead have settled down, where they will only encounter small hatching insects during summer – where a traditional salmon or steelhead fly would look very wrong and where presentation matters.

You have to lose fish on small flies.

The sooner you get around this fact, the better. Pitching miniature flies to bigger fish has always been a heart beating topic, and we at Fishmadman love this sport, but you will have to accept the fact that you will be losing more fish than you might want to do. The flies are small, and to be able to present these flies correctly, they have to be fitted with small hooks. Such hooks may be bent outwards during great runs… and flies and hooks may fly right out of the mouth of your dream fish when it tumbles across the surface… but we would say that this is far better than had you have never been able to hook up with that same fish.

You have to loose fish on small flies – the sooner you get around this fact the better.

 

Learn to fight them

Fighting big fish on small hooks doesn’t have to be so dramatic – it can be – but if you are careful and take it easy, the fish will often be compliant and finally come to you. You will need to prepare a bit for this kind of fishing, and here are some things you can do to make things work.

Use a fly reel that has a light ratchet or an adjustable brake that will allow you to control a decisive run where you have to admit line out quickly.

Use (as we do) a soft tippet material on your leader…We prefer soft nylon-like: Maxima Chameleon or Original Streen. These nylon brands will stretch when under strain…something quite valuable when the fish jumps or shakes its head.

Use only the best hooks available. Hooks are already designed for the job of fighting big fish.

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The missing link salmon Bugs made for dry and wet http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/22985 http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/22985#_comments Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:28:00 +0000 http://www.fishmadman.com/fishmadman/you-have-to-lose-salmon-and-steelhead-on-small-flies-2/ There is a fishable layer… just below the surface, where a well-presented deer hair bug can do wonders just before the riffling hitch season picks up -

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When the salmon river gets hot – think trout…

The missing link – Bugs made for dry and wet

No, advice on riffling hitch technique goes without mentioning the salmon Bugs so popular with North American anglers. Salmon Bug patterns have their practices and special details worth spending time and effort into learning and putting the bug´s family of flies into a short frame on riffling hitch fishing know-how is, in fact, a bit sketchy… but bugs are, to some extent, the fly patterns that I find to be very well connected with the riffling hitch technique.

My observations over the years have led me to conclude that there is a fishable layer… just below the surface, where a well-presented deer hair bug can do wonders just before the riffling hitch season picks up.

there is a fishable layer… just below the surface, where a well-presented deer hair bug can do wonders just before the riffling hitch season picks up

I fish the bugs wet and close to the surface as possible. I like to add a tiny amount of flotant to the flies. As you can see from the images, these salmon were hooked close to the snout, a familiar spot to hook Atlantic salmon on small bugs – Why is it so?  I don’t know…but make sure to tie your bugs on solid hooks, as hooking salmon in this spot often leads to hard-fighting fish.

The Glitter Bug salmon flyAt Fishmadman, you will find the perfect collection of small bugs to catch finicky salmon and trout in warm water, some designed by us – Others classic bug´s from around the world – Don´t leave without them… the angler that thinks trout…when he goes salmon fishing… is often the most successful.

We have chosen a small selection of heavy-duty bugs tied on heavier hooks than we do our normal bugs.

Glitter Bug Green and Orange # 10 A Bug explicitly made to be fished both wet and dry. A slightly stronger salmon hook enables this fly to be fished just below the surface in fast glides – A missing link pattern in our fabulous collection of small dry flies for steelhead and Atlantic salmon, generally termed bugs.

 

Learn to fight them

Fighting big fish on small hooks doesn’t have to be so dramatic – it can be – but if you are careful and take it easy, the fish will often be compliant and finally come to you. You will need to prepare a bit for this kind of fishing, and here are some things you can do to make things work.

Use a fly reel that has a light ratchet or an adjustable brake that will allow you to control a decisive run where you have to admit line out quickly.

Use (as we do) a soft tippet material on your leader…We prefer soft nylon-like: Maxima Chameleon or Original Streen. These nylon brands will stretch when under strain…something quite valuable when the fish jumps or shakes its head.

To read much more about bugs…go to this blog page.

Salmon bug fly
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Micro stinger and hitch In Scotland http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/23225 http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/23225#_comments Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:28:00 +0000 http://www.fishmadman.com/fishmadman/you-have-to-lose-salmon-and-steelhead-on-small-flies-2/ Micro flies … the  essential requirement

If the river is low and warm or the fish you have come to fish have gone stale, you will ever so often find that the flies needed to trick such fish into bitting will be some of the smallest flies you may find in your box.

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Ron Gray Micro salmon flies

Scottish know-how

Whenever I have the privilege of fishing the Kinnaber beat on the River North Esk in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, I am fortunate to be in the company of my dear friend Ron Gray, who serves as the head ghillie there. Ron, a true aficionado of the riffling hitch technique, is blessed with the opportunity to be by the river’s side every single day throughout the fishing season.

Attached is a photo of Ron proudly displaying a notable local catch, captured on a micro #16 fly.

Local insight

Spending each day by the river throughout the fishing season grants a depth of understanding regarding the varied moods and subtle shifts in behavior of Atlantic salmon and trout that few anglers ever attain. Advice from a seasoned local angler or ghillie can often provide invaluable insights to visiting day ticket anglers.

Micro flies … the  essential requirement

During periods of low water and warm temperatures, or when the fish seem unresponsive, you’ll frequently discover that the flies required to entice such wary fish are among the smallest in your fly box. In slow-moving water, a sparsely dressed fly might be necessary to ensure precise presentation at the rear of a pool. Alternatively, the daily emergence of local insects like stoneflies, caddisflies, or mayflies may have conditioned the fish to respond only to patterns that closely resemble these familiar sights.

Ron Gray

A sneak peek into Ron´s box of micro flies – The tiny Micro treble hook flies # 16 – 20 are seen in the top part of the box.

See small outpoint silver trebles # 16 for your micro fly tying here 

micro flies for salmon

How to

When you tie on the tube-hitch fly hook, leave the amount of tippet from the knot that you want for the trailing fly

Riffling hitch and micro fly

Micro outpoint treble hook flies

Ron´s hitch tube fly and on a small fly tied on a outpoint treble hook – Ron also use micro flies tied on single hooks.

Micro flies for salmon

The set-up

Keep it simple

Using a trailing fly can be effective, but it can also lead to tangles. Ron’s technique involves using a small tube hitch fly as the main fly, with a micro fly (#16-20) trailing about 70-100 cm behind it.

To keep the trailing fly submerged, Ron opts for 8 lb. fluorocarbon tippet material. Fluorocarbon sinks better than nylon and is stiffer, which helps reduce tangles. (for illustration, we have used a piece of regular Maxima Chameleon nylon in the photo above )

Trailing flies – what is it all about?

The concept of trailing flies isn’t fully understood, it is one of those things in fly fishing for trout and salmon that isn’t well described, but it’s a valuable tactic for catching elusive Atlantic salmon and trout in river pools during summer. The combination of a hitch fly and a trailing micro fly resembles a line of insects, possibly enticing fish to strike at the last one, mimicking an unhatched insect.…just a guess.

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More on the subject.

Curious to learn more about the cycles of Atlantic salmon …see our Fishmadman page on this subject here
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Fluorocarbon versus nylon http://www.fishmadman.com/archives/23236 Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:28:00 +0000 http://www.fishmadman.com/fishmadman/micro-stinger-and-hitch-in-scotland-2/ Fluorocarbon has become distinctly popular over the last couple of decades. Many anglers I know do not think twice when buying a spool of fluorocarbon tippet material 6 - 7 times more expensive than a spool of quality nylon tippet material. - But is it necessary to use fluorocarbon tippet material for salmon and trout?

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fluorocarbon as tippet material

What is Fluorocarbon?

Fluorocarbons are chemical compounds with carbon-fluorine bonds Fluorocarbons, and their derivatives are commercial polymers, refrigerants, drugs, and anaesthetics. (source Wikipedia)

Seaguar tippet material

The first fluorocarbon line is produced in 1972

It is the Japanese manufacturing company Kureha in Iwaki city that developed and launched Seaguar, the world’s first fishing line made from fluorocarbon (PVDF), in 1971.

The material quickly became immensely popular among big-game and commercial fishermen mainly because of the light refractive index of fluorocarbon line so close to that of water making it less visible underwater, something quite significant, e.g. fishing for giant bluefin tuna with 200 lb mono – The fluorocarbon line also has other noteworthy features a.o lack of water absorbency, abrasion resistance and knot strength last but not least the speed fluorocarbon sinks through the water (it sinks faster than nylon) * something Ron Gray benefits from in his fishing with trailing micro flies.

Fluorocarbon is becoming more and more popular among fly fishermen.

Fluorocarbon has become distinctly popular over the last couple of decades. Many anglers I know do not think twice when buying a spool of fluorocarbon tippet material  6 – 7 times more expensive than a spool of quality nylon tippet material.

Is fluorocarbon line material necessary?

If you ask me as a sea angler fishing for tuna, mackerel and grey mullet I would say yes! … fluorocarbon will get you more fish on the bank.

The tuna species and mullets are fish that see and avoid things like nylon, and in this way, they may also deter from taking your bait when you use nylon.

Fluorocarbon for trout and Atlantic salmon

As an avid trout and salmon angler, I would say no… save your money and buy nylon for your fly attachment – doing so, I will probably have fellow anglers raising their eyebrows – but my experience with fluorocarbon has shown me that the material has few properties that would help me get more bites, saying so I acknowledge that fluorocarbon has so many abilities that could aid anglers in specific and special ways not know to me, making my advise a bit bias.

do salmon see the fishing line

Salmon and trout don't seem to care about the light refractive index!

Since the 1980s, I have regularly used fluorocarbon in my fishing for sea trout (sea run brown trout) and Atlantic salmon. In the early days, I was sure that the low light reflective index of fluorocarbon would enable me to trick some of the wary trout and salmon I so often would encounter at the coast and in rivers – I gradually learned that these fish was just as uninterested and wary as they used to be with my flies fished on nylon – and overall I don’t think I have caught any more trout and salmon because of the use of fluorocarbon leaders or tippet material.

Fluorocarbon is stiffer than conventional nylon.

Generally speaking, fluorocarbon is stiffer than conventional tippet material, and it is also a lesser elastic material than nylon, which is not something I would benefit greatly from in my fishing for trout and salmon; on the contrary, I try to avoid stiff tippet material as I find that rigid leaders take away some of the life that small and medium fly patterns need to perform well.

I do also prefer a cushy and elastic nylon tippet to a stiff and less so flexible tippet material. Since I often fish for bigger fish with small hooks and light tackle in a sport where elastic tippet material comes in handy ….Read more on this hard fighting topic on our blog at Fishmadman (You have to lose salmon and steelhead on small flies)

Per Fischer

Using Shooting head on the coast? Fluorocarbon might be something for you

Per Fischer uses measures of fluorocarbon (Berkley Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon) to tie up his leaders when fishing with shooting head fly lines for sea trout and pike from the open coast. Per ties, his leader from 0.60-millimetre Fluorocarbon to 0.45, then 0.40 etc. ending in 6 or 8 lb (0.25 millimetre)

When using two flies on the leader, he also uses fluorocarbon material as this tangles less

Let's debate the subject of fluorocarbon

I believe that some of you may have had great experiences with fluorocarbon. If so I would welcome any relevant input and thoughts on the subject of fluorocarbon for trout and salmon, I will add your text to this page for anglers to see. If you feel inclined, please take time to write me about your thoughts at jesper(the a)fishmadman.com

Micro flies for salmon

Micro stinger and hitch In Scotland - blog post

Read the blog post on using fluorocarbon in and trailing-fly setup

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